Should there be stiffer consequences for Illegals crossing the border?
Since there are no punishments at the border when caught, you are just returned home, do you think stiffer punishments right off the bat would stop these people from trying re-entry? What do you think the punishment should be? -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- BP attempts to break cycle of repeat crossings By Denise Holley Published Tuesday, January 13, 2009 8:44 AM MST U.S. Border Patrol agents in the Tucson Sector would like to see the day when fewer illegal immigrants travel north from Mexico to Arizona to seek work. Then agents could concentrate on apprehending dangerous criminals, said Rob Daniels, public affairs officer for the Tucson Sector. Robert Gilbert, chief of the Tucson Sector, wants to “end voluntary departure as an option, to prevent them (immigrants) from coming back,†Daniels said. About 90 percent of the people apprehended by the Border Patrol have no criminal record or warrants, Daniels said. They can avoid a formal deportation in federal court if they agree to be bused back to Mexico, a process called “voluntary departure.†But now the Border Patrol is sending more immigrants to federal court in Tucson to face prosecution for the misdemeanor offense of entry without inspection. “If they are prosecuted by a judge, then they have a record,†Daniels said. “They can’t come back legally for five years.†The Border Patrol began apprehending more people in 2004, when the Arizona Border Control Initiative brought more agents and technology to states that border Mexico, said Gustavo Soto, supervisor for public affairs in the Tucson Sector. That initiative evolved into the Arizona Denial Prosecution Initiative, which selects a percentage of illegal immigrants for prosecution. “What the chief wants is for you to face jail time,†Soto said. “If there’s no consequence to your crossing the border, you’re going to try again.†Soto admitted it would bog down the federal court system if 100 percent of the immigrants were prosecuted. The Arizona Daily Star reported last April that prosecuting some 60 people each day put a strain on the federal court system, which had to bring in extra attorneys. Since Arizona Denial began in January 2008, more than 9,500 individuals were prosecuted, said Mario Escalante from the Tucson Sector. The initiative focuses on a 15-mile stretch of border southwest of Tucson. As well as Arizona Denial, the Border Patrol has these operations: • Operation Streamline: More than 9,600 individuals with a criminal history or repeated illegal entries saw an immigration judge at the Tucson Sector office instead of going to federal court. • Mexican Interior Repatriation Program: During the hottest months, the BP, Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) and the Mexican Consulate screen immigrants who want to go home and put those eligible onto flights to the interior of Mexico. In summer 2008, more than 18,000 people returned to their home towns. • Alien Transfer Exit Program: Between March and Sept. 30, 2008, more than 5,800 immigrants were bused to a port of entry far from the area where they were apprehended, said Escalante. When immigrants are released through the Nogales ports of entry, often a smuggler is waiting for them in a van, Soto said. “Many of the men or women aren’t in any condition to go back out to the desert for two or three days.†When immigrants are released through the Nogales ports of entry, often a smuggler is waiting for them in a van, Soto said. “Many of the men or women aren’t in any condition to go back out to the desert for two or three days.†Instead, agents put the individuals on a bus to San Isidro or Calexico, Calif., to cross into Mexico, Soto said. In fiscal year 2004, only 8 percent of illegal immigrants were removed by a means other than voluntary departure, Soto said. But in fiscal year 2008, 22 percent went through a court process or were flown to the interior or repatriated at a distant port. “We want to get that figure to 100 percent,†Soto said. “If you cross through Arizona, you will face some kind of consequence. We don’t want anybody to cross through these hazardous deserts.†But is this strategy working? The number of illegal immigrants picked up by agents in the Tucson Sector declined to 317,696 in fiscal year 2008 ��“ Oct. 1, 2007-Sept. 30, 2008, Daniels said. This is lower than FY 2007,when 378,074 people were apprehended. In 2006, the figure was even higher ��“ 392,074. Figures are not separated for the eight stations within the Tucson Sector, Soto said. They include people taken to BP stations in Ajo, Casa Grande, Douglas, Naco, Nogales, Sonoita, Tucson and Willcox. “October, November and December are our slowest months of the year, Daniels said. “A lot of individuals are going south because of the holiday, or not coming north.†“The cold reduces the number of migrants,†said Ramiro Q axis - i am an American Indian and my vote is to punish and deport.
Immigration - 18 Answers
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Ya, kill em.
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No, I don't. These people are just hungry and coming here for work. If the people in California would get off their butts, and off welfare, there wouldn't be any jobs here for them anyway. Whats funny is the people in "Los Angeles" and "San Diego" and "Sacramento" getting mad that some spanish speaking people come over the border.
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for the ones who WANT TO WORK... i SAY GIVE THEM A LIMITED VISA TO WORK they are good workers when it comes to LABOR But when they start flocking the schools and parks....thats when you say NO!!!!!!!!! they should work here for a while and go back to their country and go through the right channels to come here legally.
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I think we should give Mexico a bill every time we catch an illegal. Maybe Mexico will get tired of paying fines for us having to patrol and send people back that they will do something on their part to keep the border secure.
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yes immagrants continue to fill job spots that people in usa worked hard for
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Yes! My suggestion, not knowing the details, is to impose the same penalty on those crossing into our country illegally that the person's home country would impose on illegals entering there.
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Yes..we should ship them to Guantanamo Bay since it will soon be empty soon. They should be left there for 1 year unless their government pays to go get them. Edit..for the ones that really want to be citizens we should have military recruiting offices in the areas for those who can speak English and have no criminal record.
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This nation was built by the blood and sweat of immigrants, at the cost of others lives and freedom. How bout we give all the land back to the Indians and let them decide how to handle immigration? I say get rid of the borders, let nature take it's course.
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No, because these people are crossing for economic reasons. You see, I don't have a problem with it, because I have known many Mexican people when I lived in Texas and I find that they work extremely hard, save their money well, and take very good care of their children. I can say this, because it is the Mexican parents who come to the schools for assemblies, who pick up their children right away if they are sick, who come prepared to IEP (Individualized Education Plans) for their children, and who CONTRIBUTE. Better than our citizens lounging on curbs, sitting on milk crates or buying cheap bottled water with their Link (food stamp) cards and trying to sell a $3 case of water for $1 a bottle rather than work. This country was founded on immigration, and I don't think we can call ourselves the USA if we decide to close our borders. I DO believe that these people should be allowed to come freely with the usual paperwork, with INS doing the same checks as for any resident application...ones that might detect a potential terrorist. I don't have a problem with people wanting to come in and work. I DO have a problem with terrorists. As for arguments that they are straining the welfare system, I'm against welfare any way, and think the whole system should be shut down.
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Absolutely. They can follow the laws just like other legal immigrants have done before them. If they choose not to do this then they can expect to be disrespected.
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I don't believe that they should be punished ,but tans ported back a good distance so that they would have to pay again to a smugglers if they wanted to attempt crossing again.The cost is quite high and they may not have the means to pay again.They should also have to be finger printed and give DNA samples.This would be a way to track them and if they are felons they could then be put in prison. Be ready to voice your opinion soon.After Broc. gets into the White Hse I'm sure they are going to try to push through a amnesty bill. You should be proud of your Heritage.Watch that new TV.show on Homeland security it will open a lot of eyes ,and it is what we need to curb illegals.
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It sounds good in principle, but bad economically. Can we really afford the legal and judicial fees and the cost of imprisonment? A five year ban also sounds good, but they stop only a small number who have bans now. We need to stop it not put a band aid on it. Take away all incentives. Especially birthright citizenship. The invasion started 15-20 years ago, yet we have been neighbors with MX for centuries. Nothing has changed in MX so it was something that changed in the US. The Mexican TV & radio stations tell their people how to come and what to do once here, including how to get welfare. That's the draw, welfare. Take it away, problem solved. Their lives and livlihood are not in jeopardy in MX.There really is no legitimate reason for them to come, other than to get more material things.
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Yes - they should be treated the same as illegals on mexico's southern border.
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Should there be stiffer consequences for illegal immigrants crossing the border? The answer is YES! But first do the following: 1. Build a “Berlin-like Wall†along the border. Securing the border is very cost-effective to secure and a wall with buried mine fields towards the Mexican border would definitely work. Remember, the Berlin Wall did work, which a lot of historians refused to admit. 2. Have border patrol agents trained in commando techniques like the U.S. military, increased in numbers, and well equipped with the latest weapons (automatic weapons, rifles, rocket grenade launchers, etc.) and support systems (latest day/night sensor technologies, armored vehicles, helicopters with cannons and air to surface missiles, etc.). 3. The border patrol agents and local police should be prepared to kill once the illegal immigrants initiate gun fire or any hostile action. 4. Once illegal immigrants are caught, then they should be checked for identification. Once they are confirmed illegal immigrants then they should just be deported. No legal (no judge or court processing) action is needed. Just deport them with a permanent ban on ever entering the United States. Use biometrics to “tag†them. It is that simple. 5. If an illegal immigrant is caught after committing a horrible crime (rape, murder, sex slavery, etc.) then throw them in prison permanently or execute them. Additional Comments: Good point, Thomasina Paine! No Mexican wants to talk about the southern Mexican border. It is okay for Mexico to deport illegal immigrants from the south who just want to better themselves but not the United States. More Additional Comments: Whether illegal immigrants contribute to the US economy or trying to find a better way of life in the United States is no excuse to break legitimate US laws. They need permission to enter this country. If they want to come to the United States then let them come legally. But this country has the right to turn down immigrants if this country sees fit to do so. But it is not the right of all non-US Citizens to just enter this country and break our laws. Don’t worry about the US economy collapsing if there are no immigrants. This country is not going to collapse if all immigrants decide to not come.
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Punish and deport.
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First and foremost, All who answered this question before me should do a little research before you decide to illustrate your ignorance for all to see. -It's actually rediculous that people say illegal immigrants Mooch lol. How do we support them when they have been banned from most Government Programs since 1996 when Congress passed (and President Clinton signed) the welfare-reform law known as the Personal Responsibility and Work Opportunity Reconciliation Act. From then on, only citizens or legal immigrants, such as those with a Green Card, were eligible for federal benefits. Most illegals actually pay more into the system then they use in services, so in reality, we owe them! http://americanaffairs.suite101.com/arti... Undocumented Aliens Do Not Overburden Government Programs http://www.reason.org/commentaries/dalmi... Beyond federal taxes, all illegals automatically pay state sales taxes that contribute toward the upkeep of public facilities such as roads that they use, and property taxes through their rent that contribute toward the schooling of their children. The non-partisan National Research Council found that when the taxes paid by the children of low-skilled immigrant families — most of whom are illegal — are factored in, they contribute on average $80,000 more to federal coffers than they consume. Feel free to contact me if you wish to be educated in illegal immigration or anything that has to do with it.
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Yes, a mandatory fine and a mandatory prison sentence for these invaders. It is insane that America does not repel these hostile forces that seek la reconquista. Increase the fine and the length of the prison sentence for every offense. Bill Mexico for the cost of the imprisonment. Put these criminals to work in the fields of American farmers; and let them work off their fines.
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I think we should build a huge moat along the border and fill it with gators and piranha. If they make it across, force them to swim back!